10-07-2009, 05:28 PM
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10-07-2009, 05:52 PM
Linkage?
10-07-2009, 05:56 PM
I know Charles is planning to upload it, but for now, it's here:
http://www.seleneriverpress.com/media/pd...D_1958.pdf
http://www.seleneriverpress.com/media/pd...D_1958.pdf
10-07-2009, 06:33 PM
It's already on the Recommended Reading List at the top of this forum. Go to it and download it.
10-07-2009, 06:43 PM
(10-07-2009 06:33 PM)Charles Wrote: [ -> ]It's already on the Recommended Reading List at the top of this forum. Go to it and download it.
I just downloaded it and went directly to page 82, The Diet. Here's an excerpt:
The following carbohydrate foods contain little or no
starch and may be eaten in unlimited quantity:
spinach
squash, summer
tomatoes
turnips
watercress
pickles
horseradish
mustard
vinegar
olives
capers
mayonnaise
mushrooms
okra
onions
parsley
parsnips
peas, fresh
peppers
pumpkins
radishes
rhubarb
rutabagas
sorrel
celery
chard, swiss
collards
cucumbers
eggplant
endive, lea yes
greens, beet
greens, dandelion
greens, turnip
kale
kohlrabi
leeks
lettuce
artichokes
asparagus
avocados
bamboo shoots
beans, string
beans, wax
beans, soy
beets, red
broccoli
brussels sprou ts
cabbage
carrots
cauliflower
Oh, really?
I'm not going back to read the rest. My brain is tired.
10-07-2009, 06:44 PM
You have to learn how to differentiate between the science and the recommendations. I don't much care what his diet is; rather, it's all about what the science he presents says. Very few of the books in this forum are Pro-ZC -- but he does indeed make the statement in the book that a completely ZC diet would be ideal.
10-07-2009, 09:21 PM
Okay, so what is so fascinating about this book to me is that this Doctor has basically laid EVERYTHING at the feet of hyper and hypoglycemia. That's fascinating. This backs up what the Bear and I have always maintained, that stable blood sugar is the most important thing that one can achieve on ZC. In fact, it's the key to avoiding heart attacks. Dr. Sandler speaks of keeping blood sugar low, but his work seems to suggest that steady blood sugar is key. Indeed, from the charts he displays that compares the low-carb diet with the SAD, the blood sugar curve is straight and not prone to the huge spikes that comes from simple and complex sugars.
As I said in "On Charles", Taubes brought the observation that the Masai had all kinds of atherosclerosis yet they never had any heart attacks. We find the same thing with Alzheimer's. In the Notre Dame study, all of the elderly nuns and priests had the tangles and plaques but only some of them actually had dementia and Alzheimer's. It turns out that those who did not had lower levels of circulating insulin than the others.
So all this talk of fat and cholesterol clogging the arteries is clearly nonsense because it doesn't explain all the observations. Look, it's entirely possible that all of us will get atherosclerosis as we age and this is obviously normal. However, without carbohydrates, our chance of a heart attack are quite slim. The key is to get your blood sugar as stable as possible, as quickly as possible.
Now you should understand why diet coke and seasonings can be so bad. If they cause a reaction in your five senses such that it causes your blood sugar to spike, then they can be harmful, not just because you may gain some weight, but because you increase your risk of heart trouble with each hypoglycemic episode. So even though you might not gain weight from carbohydrates, you need to keep your blood sugar steady and your little "treat" could be the killer indeed. In fact, those Israelis found the same thing, that a high-carbohydrate meal causes your arteries to shrink.
Even in Dr. Sandler's works, insulin is the culprit because it is the thing that drives down the blood sugar. So if excess insulin is present, then one should expect hyperglycemia followed by hypoglycemia. The heart attacks are basically caused by hyperinsulinemia. It's just as I described in the post. If a person secretes insulin for no reason, at a time when they SHOULD be living off of their long term fuel supply, then they will become hypoglycemic and if they already have atherosclerosis, then this can definitely cause one of the three types of heart attacks mentioned because a thrombosis can occur in one of the atherosclerotic arteries, which would normally be fine.
He also explained why we ZC'ers have more endurance than those on the SAD. After people eat, they have the blood sugar low that saps their energy. This is also a depletion of glycogen. Not "muscle glycogen" as everyone opines, but the glycogen in the liver. To fix the problem, the person will seek out sugar but this type of sugar only makes the problem worse because after the initial burst of energy, the insulin will come and cause hypoglycemia which keeps the person in the vicious cycle.
The blood that carries the proper mix of oxygen and sugar provides the most energy to the muscles. If the blood is only full of lactic acid, then there will be far less oxygen to fuel activity, and there will be less oxygen-rich blood to fuel the organs and brain. Thus the idea of glycogen being used to burn fuel during some burst is nonsense. Fight or flight is purely adrenaline and fatty acids so as I've always held, muscles are always fueled by fat. If the oxygen is low, then we simply stop moving. If we need an extra burst to avoid a predator, that's adrenaline's job.
He also holds that, despite what we've been told, there is a BIG, chemical difference between sucrose and glycogen so that when you eat carbs, the blood sugar rise is very, very different than what happens with meat. So for the last time, we can end this nonsense about meat raising blood glucose, such that it will make us fat. Yes, it may raise blood glucose slightly, but this type of glycogen from meat is not the same chemically as the glucose from anything ending in 'ose. That would explain why we do gain a little weight from overeating on ZC but how it's quickly gone once the overeating stops. Whereas, eating carbohydrates leads to weight gain that may never go away without changing the diet. So please, don't limit protein.
This is some amazing stuff.
He does hold that physical exercise is necessary, but hey, it's the 1950's so we have to excuse him for that! Plus, he cites the example of the Inuit closest to the Arctic circle. These are the ones I've always referred to as the "Northernmost" Inuit. These people were far more careful with their diet than the more Southern groups because they had more access to whites and their diets.
As I said in "On Charles", Taubes brought the observation that the Masai had all kinds of atherosclerosis yet they never had any heart attacks. We find the same thing with Alzheimer's. In the Notre Dame study, all of the elderly nuns and priests had the tangles and plaques but only some of them actually had dementia and Alzheimer's. It turns out that those who did not had lower levels of circulating insulin than the others.
So all this talk of fat and cholesterol clogging the arteries is clearly nonsense because it doesn't explain all the observations. Look, it's entirely possible that all of us will get atherosclerosis as we age and this is obviously normal. However, without carbohydrates, our chance of a heart attack are quite slim. The key is to get your blood sugar as stable as possible, as quickly as possible.
Now you should understand why diet coke and seasonings can be so bad. If they cause a reaction in your five senses such that it causes your blood sugar to spike, then they can be harmful, not just because you may gain some weight, but because you increase your risk of heart trouble with each hypoglycemic episode. So even though you might not gain weight from carbohydrates, you need to keep your blood sugar steady and your little "treat" could be the killer indeed. In fact, those Israelis found the same thing, that a high-carbohydrate meal causes your arteries to shrink.
Even in Dr. Sandler's works, insulin is the culprit because it is the thing that drives down the blood sugar. So if excess insulin is present, then one should expect hyperglycemia followed by hypoglycemia. The heart attacks are basically caused by hyperinsulinemia. It's just as I described in the post. If a person secretes insulin for no reason, at a time when they SHOULD be living off of their long term fuel supply, then they will become hypoglycemic and if they already have atherosclerosis, then this can definitely cause one of the three types of heart attacks mentioned because a thrombosis can occur in one of the atherosclerotic arteries, which would normally be fine.
He also explained why we ZC'ers have more endurance than those on the SAD. After people eat, they have the blood sugar low that saps their energy. This is also a depletion of glycogen. Not "muscle glycogen" as everyone opines, but the glycogen in the liver. To fix the problem, the person will seek out sugar but this type of sugar only makes the problem worse because after the initial burst of energy, the insulin will come and cause hypoglycemia which keeps the person in the vicious cycle.
The blood that carries the proper mix of oxygen and sugar provides the most energy to the muscles. If the blood is only full of lactic acid, then there will be far less oxygen to fuel activity, and there will be less oxygen-rich blood to fuel the organs and brain. Thus the idea of glycogen being used to burn fuel during some burst is nonsense. Fight or flight is purely adrenaline and fatty acids so as I've always held, muscles are always fueled by fat. If the oxygen is low, then we simply stop moving. If we need an extra burst to avoid a predator, that's adrenaline's job.
He also holds that, despite what we've been told, there is a BIG, chemical difference between sucrose and glycogen so that when you eat carbs, the blood sugar rise is very, very different than what happens with meat. So for the last time, we can end this nonsense about meat raising blood glucose, such that it will make us fat. Yes, it may raise blood glucose slightly, but this type of glycogen from meat is not the same chemically as the glucose from anything ending in 'ose. That would explain why we do gain a little weight from overeating on ZC but how it's quickly gone once the overeating stops. Whereas, eating carbohydrates leads to weight gain that may never go away without changing the diet. So please, don't limit protein.
This is some amazing stuff.
He does hold that physical exercise is necessary, but hey, it's the 1950's so we have to excuse him for that! Plus, he cites the example of the Inuit closest to the Arctic circle. These are the ones I've always referred to as the "Northernmost" Inuit. These people were far more careful with their diet than the more Southern groups because they had more access to whites and their diets.
Katelyn
10-07-2009, 09:40 PM
I like this:
I have always
regarded the human as a carnivorous animal. He is built
like one. He has canine teeth. Normally he has the small
torso and abdomen that go with the smaller digestive tract
of the carnivore. Herbivorous animals must have large
digestive tracts and large bellies to accommodate the tract.
Compare the lion, tiger, and panther, which are carnivores,
with the cow and elephant, which are herbivores. The
lion is sleek, fast, with small narrow belly, and relatively
more powerful weight for weight than the larger, clumsier
cow or elephant. The cow and elephant must eat for
most of the 24 hours in a day, day in and day out, and
thus need a longer digestive tract. The lion can eat its
fill of meat from its prey in a few hours and then do without
food for several days, if necessary. The herbivore must
eat relatively great quantities of vegetable food (grass) in
order to get enough protein for essential needs. It is estimated
that a cow must eat 14 pounds of grass to produce
one pound of meat. It is thus obvious that meat is a
highly concentrated source of protein and is thus a more efficient source of food and energy than any vegetable food.
I have always
regarded the human as a carnivorous animal. He is built
like one. He has canine teeth. Normally he has the small
torso and abdomen that go with the smaller digestive tract
of the carnivore. Herbivorous animals must have large
digestive tracts and large bellies to accommodate the tract.
Compare the lion, tiger, and panther, which are carnivores,
with the cow and elephant, which are herbivores. The
lion is sleek, fast, with small narrow belly, and relatively
more powerful weight for weight than the larger, clumsier
cow or elephant. The cow and elephant must eat for
most of the 24 hours in a day, day in and day out, and
thus need a longer digestive tract. The lion can eat its
fill of meat from its prey in a few hours and then do without
food for several days, if necessary. The herbivore must
eat relatively great quantities of vegetable food (grass) in
order to get enough protein for essential needs. It is estimated
that a cow must eat 14 pounds of grass to produce
one pound of meat. It is thus obvious that meat is a
highly concentrated source of protein and is thus a more efficient source of food and energy than any vegetable food.
Katelyn
10-07-2009, 09:42 PM
Fats consist of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, and chemically
are made up of glycerol in combination with stearic,
palmitic, and oleic acids. Fats are found in all animal
foods, dairy products, eggs, some grains, vegetables, and
fruits. Fats do not have any depressant effect on the blood
s~gar and so there are no restrictions in their consumpnon.
Fats may be eaten, therefore, in any quantity according
to individual taste and tolerance. In humans, fats are
less responsible for obesity than sugar and starch. In those
persons with a tendency to obesity all excess sugar and
starch consumed is readily converted to fat and stored as
such throughout the body. I have observed individuals
for years on a diet of protein, fat, and little or no sugar
and starch, who have! maintained normal weights in spite
of increased fat intake. Livestock are fattened for market
chiefly by feeding them corn, grain, feeds, all of which
contain large amounts of starch.
are made up of glycerol in combination with stearic,
palmitic, and oleic acids. Fats are found in all animal
foods, dairy products, eggs, some grains, vegetables, and
fruits. Fats do not have any depressant effect on the blood
s~gar and so there are no restrictions in their consumpnon.
Fats may be eaten, therefore, in any quantity according
to individual taste and tolerance. In humans, fats are
less responsible for obesity than sugar and starch. In those
persons with a tendency to obesity all excess sugar and
starch consumed is readily converted to fat and stored as
such throughout the body. I have observed individuals
for years on a diet of protein, fat, and little or no sugar
and starch, who have! maintained normal weights in spite
of increased fat intake. Livestock are fattened for market
chiefly by feeding them corn, grain, feeds, all of which
contain large amounts of starch.
Laurie
10-08-2009, 08:21 AM
This is frustrating the hell out of me. We have a new computer and I can't open the damn file.
I'll have to have hubby download something so I can read it. *pout*
I'll have to have hubby download something so I can read it. *pout*
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